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Colt Blackhawk Forced Penetration Hopeless Addiction 79	Posted - 2013.03.17 12:03:00 - [1] - Quote Sorry but these changes are total fail. The firetail needed a buff--->Okay. Well done Slower Hook with more cap??? --> Fail. CCP reduces the Hook to only two fits that will work. Complete fail. These 2 fits won-¦t need the additional cap^^...... CCP really hates caldari. Comet buff---> Whaaaaat? It really didn-¦t need buff. Complete fail again. Slicer get a buf and a lil bit more cap---------> A beginning. Slicer already has HUGE problems because only 2 mid slots available. But it would need +0.5 instead of some +0.2 cap/s to make it really competitive again.
Colt Blackhawk Forced Penetration Hopeless Addiction 79	Posted - 2013.03.18 18:43:00 - [2] - Quote Yeah as long as the slicer has the 2mids it will always stay only a kiter. TBH they shouldn-¦t touch the hook and comet but buff slicer and firetail instead.
Colt Blackhawk Nasranite Watch The Bloody Ronin Syndicate 90	Posted - 2013.03.26 08:03:00 - [3] - Quote Sorry but I can say only again: These changes are =/%/(-º/ Firetail needed a buff. Slicer buff is too small. Comet was okay and really didn-¦t need a buff. Hook nerf???? Congrats. CCP kills the hook. There will be only 2 fits possible.
Colt Blackhawk Nasranite Watch The Bloody Ronin Syndicate 100	Posted - 2013.04.01 17:25:00 - [4] - Quote Quote: I remember my firetail beating two hookbills and one comet during one of eve radio's show, good times Glad to see these ships even made better. Query: how do you calculate sensor strength for all these ships ? It seems not balanced at all, with a 36.4% difference between gallente/minmatar and caldari sensor strength. Stop whining. Good sensor strenght --->bad scan resolution. Bad sensor strenght-------> super scan resolution. Tbh scanres is even worth more in most situations. So stop whining.
Colt Blackhawk Nasranite Watch The Bloody Ronin Syndicate 101	Posted - 2013.04.03 12:13:00 - [5] - Quote Quote: @Colt Blackhawk, your remarks show signs of your intelligence level, no skill found. get some glasses.
Colt Blackhawk The Amarrian Expendables 124	Posted - 2013.04.30 06:48:00 - [6] - Quote Okay... after playing with eft and with my own experience I have only to say: Total c...p. Point. Slicer is still too weak. There isnt even 1 possible slicer fit that could kill a 150mm rail buffer comet. Hook will be castrated to brawler because it is too slow and unmaneuverable for kiting (yep I am VERY experienced with the hook). Of course booster fags have the possibility to kite even with a noobship^^ Still don-¦t get any hook/slicer brawler/kiter fit that would survive a 10.5 ehp 165dps 150rail-comet... Firetail... no clue... But the comet is overoveroverpowered. After overpowered algos + overpowered tristan... oh yeah I forgot we are going towards gallente online. edit: only hook I can imagine that is able to survive a 150mm rail armor buffer comet is maybe a double td brawler. Maybe. It would be extremely tight.
Colt Blackhawk The Amarrian Expendables 125	Posted - 2013.05.01 10:09:00 - [7] - Quote Firetail: [scram web ab armor td] Damage Control II Gyrostabilizer II 400mm Reinforced Rolled Tungsten Plates I 1MN Afterburner II Balmer Series Tracking Disruptor I,Optimal Range Disruption Script Faint Epsilon Warp Scrambler I X5 Prototype Engine Enervator 150mm Light AutoCannon II,Barrage S 150mm Light AutoCannon II,Barrage S Small Trimark Armor Pump I Small Trimark Armor Pump I Small Trimark Armor Pump I Almost 150dps with repfl phased plasma, 8.7k ehp. TD, Scram, web. There is no, really no slicer fit that can kill that thing. Kiter slicer will get td on it and will get scrammed+webbed when getting in range--> Kiter slicer dead. Brawler slicer (10.5 ehp, 172 dps imp navy multi) will have the following problem: No range control. Firetail will orbit with scramweb+ trackdis script at 500 and the slicer won-¦t hit sh... I am not saying the RFF desn-¦t need a buff. The buff is okay and really needed. Comet is completely okay as it is. Really doesn-¦t need a buff. But the slicer needs a lot more buff. Liquidate the 3rd high and give it a 3rd med. Otherwise it will be worst navy frig.
Colt Blackhawk The Amarrian Expendables 125	Posted - 2013.05.03 09:51:00 - [8] - Quote Seems that thread is dead anyways :P Even thinking about selling my remaining hooks before the big firetail/comet dominance comes.
Colt Blackhawk The Amarrian Expendables 146	Posted - 2013.05.14 15:11:00 - [9] - Quote Super. Most people agree that the slicer needs more love but it seems CCP forgot this thread a long time ago.
Colt Blackhawk The Amarrian Expendables 146	Posted - 2013.05.14 15:41:00 - [10] - Quote Jonas Sukarala wrote: Colt Blackhawk wrote: Super. Most people agree that the slicer needs more love but it seems CCP forgot this thread a long time ago. mm.. i still find it odd that all the navy classes get an extra slot but these don't apparently they would have to nerf them to allow for an extra slot or they would be too OP im not too convinced by that myself considering AF's have 12 slots and lots of bonuses. Well. Actually the slicer has one slot less. NO ONE uses the utility high. NO ONE.
Colt Blackhawk The Amarrian Expendables 146	Posted - 2013.05.14 15:49:00 - [11] - Quote Kagura Nikon wrote: Colt Blackhawk wrote: Jonas Sukarala wrote: Colt Blackhawk wrote: Super. Most people agree that the slicer needs more love but it seems CCP forgot this thread a long time ago. mm.. i still find it odd that all the navy classes get an extra slot but these don't apparently they would have to nerf them to allow for an extra slot or they would be too OP im not too convinced by that myself considering AF's have 12 slots and lots of bonuses. Well. Actually the slicer has one slot less. NO ONE uses the utility high. NO ONE. Utility high on a RANGE focused ship is indeed not extremely helpful. That one could be very well moved. Or add antoher turret and reduce a bit the damage bonus to not get overpowered Overpowered? Joke? Even with 3rd tutrret and 220dps the kiter slicer would loose vs the firetail I have posted before^^ Firetail will be able to scramweb, 1td ,170 dps at 8.5k ehp tank. Not to mention a rail comet^^ CCP actually kills the slicer completely. edit: and don-¦t tell me 3rd turret would make it a better brawler^^. 2 Meds---->No range control--->orbited at 500m----> laser don-¦t hit anything. Plus possible td with tracking disruption---> SLICER VERY DEAD. Yes I know that some pilots fly the brawler slicer very good atm. But ONLY because no one awaits it. No one. Everyone thinks: Okay he is scrammed= he is dead. It is the surprise effect and not the ship.
Colt Blackhawk The Amarrian Expendables 148	Posted - 2013.05.14 17:55:00 - [12] - Quote Zelarrs Elkoth wrote: Colt Blackhawk wrote: Super. Most people agree that the slicer needs more love but it seems CCP forgot this thread a long time ago. Probably best to take it to Test Server feedback at this point: https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=233577&find=unread I agree with you though, Slicer needs a high moved to a mid or low, and the Executioner's speed or at least something closer to it. Most reasonable people seem to agree. Always some fellow around with some odd grudge to pursue. Moved to a low would make it almost like a daredevil but for kiting and with no tank and less damage. So no solution. LOL. A mid would allow a td. But a td won-¦t help a slicer vs scramweb, ab, td, 8.5k ehp, 170dps firetail. BUT: The 3rd med would allow range control for web so that slicer could be a viable brawler. CCP can say what they want. Without 3rd med the slicer is completely f...
Colt Blackhawk The Amarrian Expendables 150	Posted - 2013.05.19 16:11:00 - [13] - Quote BUMP. Still can-¦t believe CCP is really killing the slicer. The ship will be dead like hell. Only for comparison again: - comet: 150mm rails, 163dps, 10.4k ehp, ab scram web possible. - firetail: 148 dps, tracking disruptor, 8.7k ehp, scramweb possible. - slicer: erm... ??? Maybe 172 dps at 10.5k ehp, ab scram possible but ONLY scram. NO WEB. IDIOTIC!!!! COMPLETELY IDIOTIC. Especially because lasers don-¦t hit anything if you are orbited at 500m^^. No clue how a brawler with such a bad damage at close range (500m) can survive without web^^. Additionally if the firetail has td with trackdis on the slicer and slicer is orbited at 500m^^. Kiter slicer? HAHAHA. Firetail has td and comet rails. Forget it. THX CCP for actually killing the slicer.
Colt Blackhawk The Amarrian Expendables 155	Posted - 2013.06.04 13:03:00 - [14] - Quote The uber buff of firetail and comet WILL hurt. Try some fits. Standard fits of firetails with scramweb td ab, 160dps, 8.5k ehp will eat blaster corms^^ That is not balancing. That is winmagallatar.

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